James Klinman's Thesis Research Meeting Notes

• Form Thesis Committee, maybe Jake as member with David Delene and Andy Detwiler.
• Update Topic proposal, get done and sent out this week.
• Working on updating script for converting aircraft data to ADPAA format to work on 2000 data set.

Next meeting Tuesday, October 10, 2023.

• Discussed classes, no Measurement System and No Radar.
• Topic proposal revised. Need committee review topic.
• Try 12 CT on Friday for meeting.
• Working on Flight 757, which is June 22, 2000.
  • Did before June 22, 1995, Flight 668.
  • High concentration, overloaded the computer. No HVPS, use Hail Spec.
• My travel update. Best time for meeting is probably 10 am CST, 7 pm KSA, there is time change.
• Keep looking at data for quality assurance.

• David - Review Topic proposal.
• James - Get third person on committee.
• James - Do training.
• James - Work on software (convert), backup software.

Next meeting 2 pm Tuesday, October 17, 2023 (No Andy next week).

• Spectrum discussion. Uses time interval of 5 seconds (GNU), Aaron uses a correction, which is 1.1. Now the *.txt file from SODA Hail Spectrometer agrees with the *.dat counts file data exacted with ADPAA. The *Disp is 1-D counts and _SODA is the 2-d.
• Names should be HVPS-2D, HAIL-1D, HAIL-2D.
• Next meeting with Colorado is 5/21/2024 at 11 AM, no 9 am.

• James - Use names HVPS-2D, HAIL-1D, and HAIL-2D.
• James - Add HAIL-1D counting statistics uncertainty, see Shawn Wagner's 2023 paper (David's Website).
• James - Get HVPS processing to match, which should be similar to HAIL Spectrum..
• James - Make plots/tables for each 5 sections for different time segments, where we have radar data.
• David/Andy - Annual report.

• James - Particle size distribution much better now.
• James - Documenting workflow on Wiki page.
  • Has thing changed previous analysis?
    • Used 1D and HVPS.
    • James the 1D has not changed. HVPS data
• Andy, some analysis with and without hearing things.
• Chandra - HVPS is good for poster.
• Andy, the 1995 data is processed. Have to find and organize things.
• Chandra - 452 - Old book. See if James can reproduce. 1995 data.
• Meet in two weeks, June 4, Tuesday 10 am.
• Compare to times with less hail, in 2000.

• James - Get uncertainties in spectrum plots.
• Andy - Change 2D method, standard is 1D all-in processing. Get a comparison between methods.
• Andy - Starting draft of report.
• James - Set of images, with diameter, having individual images. Something for poster.

• Pat Kennedy, Andy Dewiler, James Klinman, Ivan Arias.

• Pat has nothing.
• James - Slides.
  • David - Talk about counting statistics.
  • David - Talked about combining spectrum.

Next Meeting - June 14, 11 CT.

• Pat Kennedy, Andy Dewiler, James Klinman, Ivan Arias.

• ICCP 2024
  • James - Update.
  • David - Update.
  • James - Uncertainty is interesting. How close was the plane and radar observations? Matching up data/. Why Tmatix, dis-dipolar, why not use. We have Tmaxtix setu.
  • Andy - What were they doing with radar processing? Create particle size distribution.
  • Pat - Exactly what were they doing.
  • David - Find paper on their work and send to group.
  • Pat - Nothing major, expand on things.
  • Chandra - Comments.
• Pat - Next steps. Processing all data from STEPS project (2000).
• Pat - At T-28 level. Will use 10 second data, in good format to get scattering from radar.
• Ivan - Finds the closest distance in time.
• James - Aaron new file with individual pbp data. Works with HVPS3 data, still working. There is issue with displaying the pbp images correctly.
• Andy - There is a factor of 4/1 scaling that is not applied to the pbp display, currently.
• James - Set the NetCDF file to 2. Set to 2 to get image data.
• David - Add the NetCDF options to ADPAA, set to default of 2.
• Andy - How long, does it take to processing.
• Ivan - Takes a 2-3 minutes processing for spectrum. Adjusting only air and ice. Working on getting the water amount. Use LDR to match aspect ratio.
• Andy - Size distribution with uncertainty bars. Can you use uncertainty to get radar uncertainty. Something good.
• Ivan - Yes, something to do.
• Andy - Want we have is a range of valves.
• James - Updated aspect averaging code. Can generate table of aspect ratio.
• Ivan - Can you use size bin aspect ratio? Yes.
• David - Can you weight the aspect ratio.
• Andy - Use LDR and Reflectivity, use anything else?
• Ivan - Yes, only LDR and reflectivity.
• Andy - An afternoon, can do a flight to see if water on the
• David - Drop off early.

• James - Add NetCDF option to ADPAA SODA processing.
• James - Different file for defining streaker file.
• David - Send file format to use.
• Ivan - Do AMS abstract draft.

• Andy Dewiler, James Klinman, David Delene

• 2 or 3 pm meet next week, Thursday September 5.
• Area ratio < 0.3, manually classified as Not Looked at / good / bad
  • Lots of particles between 0.1 to 0.3 are not good particles.
• What to do with two particles in the image.
• How to get size uncertain of particle to reflectivity.

• Select only large particle (>0.8), then make histogram of area ratio. Include particles < 0.1. Maybe use bin of 0.05 area ratio. Do histogram for whole hail time period.
• Get another meeting with Colorado setup.

• Andy Dewiler, James Klinman, David Delene

• Histrogram of area ratios. Looked at some plots. Looks like 0.4 area ratio to remove particles.
• Need to figure out how many of the < 0.4 are real data.
• Maybe work on code at 1 pm tomorrow.

• Andy Dewiler, James Klinman, David Delene

• James will start giving weekly update on writting.
• Andy - Look at 10 second segments of data for all the passes.
• James - Fixed pbp program so everything is working again.
• James - Talked about combining the two errors. Use the larger error, instead of add them.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Ivan Arias, P. Kennedy, Andrew Detwiler

• Group meeting
• Andrew - Get an idea of images. Get an idea of what is going. Is the 1D and 2D are close together. Will work on this.
• James - Using 0.3 area to filter out bad data.
• Ivan - Removed threshold. How to handle uncertainty.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler

• Software identification, on Hail Spec.
  • The PbP has several methods defined within the file.
  • SODA decides if there are more than one particle.
• Uncertainty.
  • Discussed uncertainty. Having larger

• James - Figure out blog finding methods, so we can example how it works.
• James - Find reference for the 1995 Hail Sizing method, x-extent.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler

• Aaron Email - No reply yet.
• Writing Update. Will send update, but doing some.
• Compare 1D and 2D Concentrations, All sizing methods.
• Compare concentration from Hail Spec with published spectrum.
• Andy - Share stuff from Pat. Been looking at area with not too much hail. Should at other area, should look at some place without lots of cloud water.

• Meeting next Tuesday at 3 pm.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler

• Andy - Sent some papers with image of hail.
• Andy - File has all period identified by Paul Field. Size distribution. So we can check with their 10 second time period for time distribution.
• James - Tried one time period 2000 June 22 flight.
• Andy - Sometime there high counts in 2.5-3.0 cm bin, Paul took out. Not sure why this happen.
• James - Looking on papers I left in mail box.
• Aaron talked with James
  • Talked about how SODA draw circles around particles. There is an option (Keep Largest Particle), to exclude satellite particle (small particle).
  • James - Talked about how you get 1-D data from 2-D images.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler

• David - Used James Code to display HVPS3 from lab droplet.
• James - Manual counting of Hail paper. Counted 10 seconds of data manually. Will have code to count them. Have been doing with HailSpec, but could work with HVPS3.
• David - Manual/program, get the best method and best spectrum. Get SODA to match by adjust parameters, which means doing a similar thing. Get the 1D data to match. Then process all the 1D data using this method Use that for Radar Comparison.
• David - Some idea of the range of uncertain.
• James - Will write a lot over break.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler

• James - Review Pointer point 20250101_Manual_Counting.pptx
  • Wanted to get 1D counts
  • disp - 1D counts less in less particles. Have for all flights.
  • SODA copycat - 2D is more in smaller bins, and less in larger bins. Only have for some flights.
  • Difference impacts radar calculations.
  • recreated w/ images - James - In between the other two methods.
• James is going to look at the South Dakota Thesis.
• James - Will do 1D processing to check how well it reprocess the 1D data.

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler, Ivan Aria, Pat Kennedy

• Ivan Presentation
  • Scattering Simulations - Tmaxtrix
    • 11 Minutes - Outline (Note necessary)

• James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Dewiler, Ivan Aria, Pat Kennedy

• James did a little writing.
• Processed all 2D, 2000 - 2003 (SODA processing)
• Talked about fixing data, eliminating number of bin or size range.

• Ivan Arias
• James Klinman
• David Delene
• Pat Kennedy
• Andrew Detwiler

• James - Fitting data. 3 minute data. 24:18:30 24:22:00 Time. 3 minutes.
• James - Fitting between the 2D and 1D methods is not companionable even with a limited size range.
• Ivan - New plots from AMS. 2D concentration. Adding water can get agreement.
• Pat - Seeing the amount of water.

Next Meeting 10 am CT - Feb 27. Focus with 2D and good agreement with radar.

• Next focus on flights with 2D data available. These are 11 flights,3-4 field projects. Had engined issues at the end. Looks all hail storms. Use water processing, with like 5% and nothing to compare. kdp look at to get some water information. Kdp really really response to droplets in the air, maybe see water coming off the hail, kdp pick up large waterdrops.
• Sent Terry email about powersupply on Calgary.
• Once, Calgary, plan to setup rsync script to backup on Littlestorm.
• Have group meeting next Thursday, meeting on Tuesday to see what data we have. David can not join.

James Klinman, David Delene, Ivan Arias, Andrew Detwiler, Pat Kenndey.

• Need to update Korea Abstract.
• Where were we.
• List of flights. Spreadsheet. Time period that Andrew has identified time periods based on flight notes and audio.
• James working on reprocessing data. Did not back-up code like should of. Not too much done.

• Meeting - 11 am Central. March 20, Thursday

James Klinman, David Delene, Ivan Arias, Andrew Detwiler, Pat Kenndey.

• Working on getting everything off Calgary.
• Can you run software on Calgary?
• Aaron - Powerpoint, comparison. 1D and 2D comparison. Lot of good 2D Spectrum data before 2000.
• James - Good data - means good data from the 10 minute.

• David Delene - Get backup system for Littlestorm.
• David Delene - Global ADPAA/SODA on Littlestorm.
• James - Update with what you have at end of week.
• Andy - Missing a lot of data.
• James - Qualification is Good - Userable, O.K. Maybe, Bad - Not usable.
• Andy - Could calculate reflectivity. (D^6)
• David - Case, SODA has reflective so can low/high.
• James - Let us know if we should meet.

James Klinman, David Delene, Ivan Arias, Andrew Detwiler, Pat Kenndey.

• Have June 20, 2000 flight processed. Can have shared with radar. Having the average and uncertain for all methods, and counting uncertainty.
• David - How many more cases?
  • Needs list periods, need radar available.
• Andy - Pre-2000, June 22, 1995. Looked at. HVPS-first version. Hail 2D images and 5 minutes of good images.
• Pat - What James will do.
  • James - Look at all data after 2000 to see what good cases we have. Look at the images data.
  • James - Make Hail spectrum extract script.
• Chandra - Comments.
• Andrew - Close to melting layer, range of temperatures.
• Next meeting Thursday, April 3, 1 pm CT.

• List of good hail cases.
• Script to create all Hail buffer images.

James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Detwiler.

• Looked over Aaron B. Slides.
• Look at 1995 data, 1D and 2D and HVPS.
• Calculate Reflectivity time series.

James Klinman, David Delene, Andrew Detwiler.

• 1D DBZ > 35. 10 second.
• What do we want to use for the 2D, x-size
• Flight 757, 2000/06/22 Data.
• One plot with two flights, F757 and F761.